The need to knead

Friday, 3rd April 2020 ◆ Boy studies baked goods (6) ◆ Comments (4)

Whenever I try and make bread, I follow these steps:

  1. Mix water, flour, salt, yeast
  2. Combine into a dough
  3. Knead
  4. Leave to rise
  5. Knead
  6. Bake

I am lazy, though, and am curious if the lengthy kneading at stages 3 and 5 really makes any difference.

Bready steady cook Ingredients at the ready

So, I decided to test it out. I made four rolls with each combination of kneads: before and after, before only, after only and neither.

Four slightly burnt rolls Four slightly burnt rolls
Probably not. Can you tell which is which?

I was hoping to have seen a difference in the way the rolls rose in the oven, but they were all the same size. And after cutting them open... they were all pretty much the same too.


  • I have been wasting my time kneading dough
  • I am not making bread properly

I would be curious to see the results from someone who is actually good at baking...


twisted ◆ Friday, 3rd April 2020 at 21:25

Third drops back before queen, produces pies (5)

sunil. ◆ Wednesday, 22nd April 2020 at 11:09

Nice clue! I think "produces Victoria sponge" might be a nice end to the clue - ties it all together?

tann ◆ Thursday, 14th May 2020 at 20:03

Right is the kneaded one I think!

sunil. ◆ Friday, 15th May 2020 at 17:46

Clockwise from top-left: before only, both, after only, neither.